Some Proof That Yeshivas Don't Offer Classes In Journalism
Headline from page 6 of today's edition of the ultra-Orthodox publication Hamodia:
Wow. How many more lives do you think this lucky guy's gonna get?
For The Third Time, A Lawyer For Saddam Hussein Is Assassinated
Wow. How many more lives do you think this lucky guy's gonna get?
posted by orthomom at 10:03 AM
36 Comments:
AAAArgh! I saw that and didn't flinch. Good eye OM.
lol
I'm generally a major stickler, but I think they're ok here. It does not, at first glance appear to say that the same guy was assissinated, rather, that for the third time, "A" lawyer representing Sadam Hussein (not necessarily the same guy) was assassinated. Had they written, "For the third time, THE lawyer . . . ," or "Hussein's lawyer assassinated for the third time," I'd see your point. Not that I don't agree with the spirit of your critique - the writing is generally abysmal.
by the way, just to be fair, the writing in hamodia typically comes from wire services they use. much of the writing is not in-house.
that was big news yesterday
and also since his lawyer was killed, saddam went on a hunger strike
are you seriously admitting that you get news from hamodia?
(its ok, i think hamodia is the best jewish NEWS paper for exactly that reason)
Or, perhaps, it was meant in the sense of--"I told you. I told you again. For the third time,..."
yknow i was a little slow there sorry
"Still Wonderin' said...
by the way, just to be fair, the writing in hamodia typically comes from wire services they use. much of the writing is not in-house."
Some of it comes from wire services, but some must be written in-house unless they've found the most obnoxious and biased wire service out there... Not that we would know because, when last I looked, bylines are curiously absent from most articles in Hamodia. I wonder if they do this to prevent letters to the editor or if they just believe that everyone agrees with them so who cares who wrote the article!
If Hamodia is ultra-orthodox then what is the Yated? Not that I really read any Jewish papers beyond the FTJT (its free).
nice catch on the headline..
do a news search on any big story - and youll see that every local paper can run the same exact AP or wire service article and may or may not run it with the same headlines or make up their own
Some Proof That Yeshivas Don't Offer Classes In grammar you mean.
DB - because non-yeshiva students in this country speak such perfect English. I think Best of the Web has a running feature on ambiguous headlines, not a big deal.
I think this moiredik headline iz mamish ah peleh.
The Times editors ostensibly did study journalism and that kind of stuff happens all the time. You have to be careful of something that can be read two ways. Watch Jay Leno and you'll see plenty of those, many of them much worse.
BTW, I'd like to know one yeshiva that does have a formal class in journalism.
DB - because non-yeshiva students in this country speak such perfect English.
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The point, though, is the error has nothing to do with JOURNALISM
DB - my apologies, I thought you were ragging on the quality of (ultra-orthodox) Yeshiva secular education.
Somewhat Anonymous said...
If Hamodia is ultra-orthodox then what is the Yated? Not that I really read any Jewish papers beyond the FTJT (its free).
Hamodia is chassidish/ yeshivish
Yated is lakewood yeshivish
Anon - ah, I guess I need to brush up on my knowledge of Jewish factionalism
I'm another total grammar freak (I whisper corrections under my breath all the time as people speak - that is, if I can hold myself back from correcting them aloud.). Even so, I agree with Anonymous #2 (the third commenter). True, it is ambiguous, but it can be understood to mean that this is the third time a lawyer of Saddam's was assassinated.
Better question, how many people are still willing to work as counsel for him.
a) I agree with a/one of/whomever anonymous posters of yours (OrthoMom, have you ever had so many anonymous people bothering you?) that grammatically the headline was correct.
b) Joe Rebibo, as far as I am aware, is editor of HaModia in English. Besides being American (Phoenix), okay son of a Rabbi, too, he worked for many years at JPost. see his article in Azure here:
http://www.jafi.org.il/education/azure/11/11-rebibo.html
He's very good and not your typical, okay, DovBear typical, Haredi pseudo-journalist
YMedad said...
a) I agree with a/one of/whomever anonymous posters of yours (OrthoMom, have you ever had so many anonymous people bothering you?) that grammatically the headline was correct
I wasn't the one who said it was a grammatical error. DB was. I just think it is an unclear headline, with an amusing double meaning. Which is something that journalists ostensibly try to avoid.
Yes, you're right OrthoMom. Sorry 'bout that.
And try these on:
Blind woman gets new kidney from dad she hasn't seen in years;
Police begin campaign to run down jaywalkers;
Organ festival ends in smashing climax;
Two sisters reunite after eighteen years at checkout counter;
HOW RELIABLE YOU ARE. ALWAYS THERE TO MAKE FUN AND DENIGRATE CHAREIDIM. GOOD FOR YOU.
BUT YOU KNOW, HITLER DIDN'T DIFFRENTIATE.
Anonymous said...
HOW RELIABLE YOU ARE. ALWAYS THERE TO MAKE FUN AND DENIGRATE CHAREIDIM. GOOD FOR YOU.
BUT YOU KNOW, HITLER DIDN'T DIFFRENTIATE.
10:59 AM
Right. That's what people have come to rely on my blog for. It's the leading anti-Charedi blog out there.
Rats. I though GH was the leading anti-Haredi blog. :)
People who get degrees in Journalism are just about as stupid as Education majors.
orhtomom is just a frum hater that is why she posted this. she doesnt like people challenging her either. as we enter the month of tamuz,, we will start to lament the destruction of the temples cause of hate like this.
thekvetcher said...
orhtomom is just a frum hater that is why she posted this.
Yes, that's what my readers have come to expect from me.
Yawn.
I actually expected more from you. when i first started to read your blog i actually was impressed by the articulate writing skills and grammar. when you tried to be a chaptzem I gave you a nudge to straighten up but you continued to sling the muck.. What happened to you???????? where is mama??
A Chaptzem? This blog? That's funny, actualy. Kvetcher you don't read chaptzem do you?
some people think i am chaptzem.
http://chaptzem.blogspot.com/2006/06/r-bentzion-crashes-into-kallah-during.html#comments
stopuoj said...
I think everybodys getting to serious here... mom is just poking some gentle fun
THANK you. Exactly right.
This is hilarious. Orthomom who is a poor writer herself, criticizes a headline for poor grammar when in fact there is nothing wrong with the headline.
Time to eat crow and admit you wrong.
Anonymous said...
This is hilarious. Orthomom who is a poor writer herself, criticizes a headline for poor grammar when in fact there is nothing wrong with the headline.
Time to eat crow and admit you wrong.
You're sweet. Come again!
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